MB5 analysis: per-role KV split proves static-partition mismatch
aggregate_mb5.py: - Split the cluster KV timeline by role (P-pool vs D-pool) using a PID->role map parsed from vllm_logs filenames. The cluster average hid the result — 6P+2D/4P+4D look ~45% utilized but the decode pool is actually pegged at ~100% while prefill idles at ~30%. - Two-stage reduce/plot: --reduce-to (numpy-only, runs on the serving host over multi-GB snapshot dirs) dumps a compact JSON; --from-reduced (matplotlib) renders locally. matplotlib import is now lazy. - New plot_role_split figure + p/d peak/steady columns in the CSV. PD_DISAGG_RESULTS.md: consolidated writeup with figures inline. Verdict: no static P:D ratio beats 8C colocation. The binding constraint moves with the ratio (D-pool saturates at 6P+2D/4P+4D, P-pool jams at 2P+6D -> 91% request loss); 8C's shared pool stays elastic at 34% steady, 100% completion. PD wins TPOT (10-35x cleaner, the MB1 phase-isolation benefit is real) but loses TTFT and sheds load. Round-robin P routing also zeroes prefix-cache reuse; a session-affinity re-run of 6P+2D is in flight to test the fix. Figures (rep1): mb5_kv_timeline, mb5_role_split, mb5_peak_utilization, mb5_latency_compare + mb5_summary.csv. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.7 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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# PD-disaggregation under an agentic workload — does it work?
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**Consolidated results doc.** Self-contained writeup of every PD-disagg
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argument and experiment, with figures inline. For the live experiment TODO
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list see [PD_DISAGG_INVESTIGATION.md](PD_DISAGG_INVESTIGATION.md).
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Date: 2026-05-28 · Hardware: dash1, 8×GPU · Model: Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct
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· vLLM 0.18.1 (V1, chunked-prefill on) · Mooncake 0.3.11 · Trace:
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`w600_r0.0015_st30.jsonl` (1214 requests, agentic multi-turn).
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---
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## TL;DR (verdict)
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**No static prefill/decode split beats 8-way colocation (8C) on this agentic
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workload.** Every disaggregated ratio we tried is dominated by 8C on the
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metric the user actually feels (TTFT, end-to-end latency, request
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completion), and the failure *moves* with the ratio:
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- **D-heavy bottleneck** (6P+2D, 4P+4D): the decode pool saturates (peak
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**99.6% / 97.5%**) while the prefill pool sits at **~30%** — half the
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cluster's KV is stranded on the wrong side.
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- **P-heavy bottleneck** (2P+6D): the 2 prefill instances can't keep up,
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the prefill pool jams at **99.7%**, **872 requests** pile up in the queue
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and **91% of requests never complete**.
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- **8C** keeps a single elastic pool that absorbs whichever phase is hot at
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the moment → steady utilization **34%**, **100% completion**, fastest
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wall-clock, best p50/p90 latency.
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PD-disagg *does* deliver the phase-isolation win we predicted in MB1 — its
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**TPOT is 10–35× cleaner** — but that win is swamped by TTFT inflation,
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request loss, and a total collapse of prefix-cache reuse under the stock
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round-robin router.
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This is the empirical backing for the paper's claim: **agentic workloads
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have time-varying P:D demand that no static partition can track; colocation
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wins because its pool is elastic.** (H1 *and* H2 from the investigation doc,
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unified by one mechanism.)
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---
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## 1. Why this experiment exists
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Earlier cost accounting (MB1 phase-interference, MB2 KV-transfer cost) showed
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that on the **phase-isolation axis alone**, PD-disagg actually *wins*: it
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removes prefill→decode interference, and the transfer cost is small relative
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to the interference it avoids. So "PD-disagg is bad for agentic" could not be
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argued from phase isolation — we needed a system-level experiment that
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measures the whole picture (queueing, pool capacity, cache reuse), not just
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the isolated phase cost.
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See [analysis/mb1](../../analysis/mb1) and [analysis/mb2](../../analysis/mb2)
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for that accounting. This doc is the system-level answer.
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---
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## 2. Setup
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| Configs | `8C` (8× kv_both colo), `6P+2D`, `4P+4D`, `2P+6D` (prefill+decode split) |
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| PD routing | stock **round-robin** on both P and D (vLLM official `mooncake_connector_proxy`) |
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| Trace | `w600_r0.0015_st30.jsonl`, 1214 requests, agentic multi-turn |
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| Reps | 1 (rep1) for this analysis; the 3-rep sweep confirmed run-to-run consistency before we converged on rep1 for iteration speed |
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| KV instrumentation | V1 scheduler patched to dump per-request KV block allocation every 100 ms per EngineCore (see `instrument_kv_snapshot.py`) |
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8C is the fair baseline: 8 colocated instances, replayer round-robins across
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them directly (no proxy). PD configs route through the proxy.
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---
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## 3. Headline result — no PD ratio beats 8C
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All numbers are rep1.
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| Metric | **8C** | 6P+2D | 4P+4D | 2P+6D |
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| **completion** | **100%** | 100% | 100% | **9%** 💀 |
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| wall-clock (drain trace) | **2994 s** | 3419 s | 4171 s | 5762 s |
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| prefix-cache hit | **19.4%** | 0% | 0% | 0% |
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| TTFT mean | **18.0 s** | 44.8 s | 70.0 s | 106.8 s |
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| TTFT p50 | **7.0 s** | 41.0 s | 56.4 s | 23.6 s |
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| TTFT p90 | **53.1 s** | 86.7 s | 153.1 s | 498 s |
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| E2E p50 | **10.8 s** | 44.5 s | 59.5 s | 26.3 s |
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| E2E p90 | **83.3 s** | 91.8 s | 157.1 s | 499 s |
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> ⚠️ **Read the percentiles with the completion rate.** Latency percentiles
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> are computed over *successful* requests only. 2P+6D's "p99 = 577 s" covers
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> just the 9% that finished — the other 91% never returned, so its real
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> experience is far worse than any latency bar suggests.
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8C wins p50 by **4×** and p90 decisively. The only metric where a PD config
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edges 8C is E2E **p99** (6P+2D 148 s vs 8C 194 s) — and that is the flip side
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of the next result.
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---
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## 4. The duality — PD wins TPOT, loses TTFT
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PD-disagg delivers exactly the phase-isolation benefit MB1 predicted: with no
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prefill stealing decode steps, **inter-token latency is dramatically cleaner.**
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| TPOT | **8C** | 6P+2D | 4P+4D | 2P+6D |
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| mean | 87 ms | 11 ms | 9 ms | 6 ms |
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| p90 | 230 ms | 18 ms | 14 ms | 8 ms |
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| p99 | **1129 ms** | **26 ms** | **20 ms** | **12 ms** |
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PD's TPOT p99 is **10–35× lower** — once a request reaches a dedicated decode
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instance it streams without interruption. 8C's 1.1 s TPOT p99 *is* the
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chunked-prefill interference tax (decode steps occasionally stalled behind an
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8k-token prefill chunk), consistent with MB1.
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**But the win is local.** TTFT inflates 2.5–6× because every request now pays
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P→D handoff + admission into a smaller, saturated decode pool. For this
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workload's modest output lengths, TTFT dominates total time, so the TPOT win
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never pays for itself. This is the cost/benefit imbalance made concrete:
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phase isolation is real, but it is the wrong thing to optimize when the pool
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is the binding constraint.
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---
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## 5. Root cause — per-role KV pool occupancy (the kill shot)
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The cluster-average KV utilization is *misleading* and nearly hid the result:
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6P+2D and 4P+4D look only ~42–46% utilized on cluster average — yet they have
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128–152 requests queued. The average hides that **one pool is pegged while
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the other idles.** Splitting the KV pool by role exposes it:
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| Config | P-pool steady | D-pool steady | D-pool **peak** | binding side |
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| 8C | — single shared pool — | 34% | 72% | none (elastic) |
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| 6P+2D | 31% | **74%** | **99.6%** | **decode** |
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| 4P+4D | 29% | **60%** | **97.5%** | **decode** |
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| 2P+6D | **92%** | 95% | 96% | **prefill** (P jams first) |
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**The mechanism, unified:**
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- A static P:D split fixes the KV capacity on each side at deploy time.
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- The agentic workload's instantaneous P:D demand *drifts* (bursts of new
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sessions = prefill-heavy; long tool-call-driven turns = decode-heavy).
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- Whichever side is undersized *for the current phase* saturates and
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back-pressures the whole pipeline, while the other side's KV sits stranded.
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- 6P+2D / 4P+4D → decode side too small → D-pool hits ~100%, prefilled
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requests queue for a decode slot → TTFT explodes (this is **H1**).
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- 2P+6D → prefill side too small → P-pool hits ~100%, requests can't even
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start → 872 queued, 91% dropped.
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- **8C colocation has no partition**: prefill and decode share one pool, so
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the pool elastically reallocates to whichever phase is hot. Steady
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utilization stays at 34% with 100% completion.
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This is **H1 (D-pool capacity ceiling)** and **H2 (static-partition
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mismatch)** turning out to be the *same* phenomenon seen from two ratios.
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---
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## 6. The routing handicap — and whether smarter routing rescues PD
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Every PD config above shows **prefix-cache hit = 0%**, versus 8C's 19%. That
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is not fundamental to disaggregation — it is the stock proxy round-robining
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the **prefill** side: consecutive turns of one agentic session land on
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*different* producers, so each turn re-prefills the whole conversation from
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scratch. That both inflates TTFT and piles extra load on the prefill pool
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(directly worsening the 2P+6D collapse).
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The correct PD scheduling policy (as the design argues): **P should be chosen
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by session affinity** (reuse the producer's prefix cache) while **D is chosen
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by load balance** (decode KV is freshly transferred per turn, so D gains
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nothing from affinity). We added this as an env-gated mode in the proxy
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(`MB5_P_ROUTING=session`, consistent hash on `X-Session-Id`; D stays
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round-robin) and re-ran the best-performing disaggregated config, **6P+2D**.
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> **Status: session-affinity 6P+2D run in progress.** Results below will be
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> filled in when it completes; the question it answers is *how much of the
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> gap to 8C does restoring prefix-cache reuse close.*
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<!-- SESSION_AFFINITY_RESULTS -->
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*(pending)*
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---
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## 7. Caveats / honesty
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- **Single rep** for this analysis. The earlier 3-rep sweep showed 8C and
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4P+4D are tight run-to-run, but 6P+2D completion varied (rep1 100% vs rep2
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56% vs rep3 80%) — i.e. the D-pool sits right at the cliff edge, so 6P+2D's
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"100% rep1" is optimistic. The qualitative ranking is robust; exact numbers
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on the marginal configs are not.
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- **Latency percentiles count successes only** (see §3 warning). For failing
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configs the latency bars *understate* the damage.
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- **Round-robin baseline.** §6 addresses the routing fairness concern head-on
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with a session-affinity re-run.
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- Trace is a single agentic workload; conclusions are about *this* class of
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workload (sub-second tool-call cadence, multi-turn sessions), not all LLM
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serving.
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---
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## 8. Reproduce
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```bash
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# from repo root, after microbench/fresh_setup/deploy.sh dash1
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# 1. round-robin baseline sweep (1 rep)
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ssh dash1 'CONFIGS="8C 6P+2D 4P+4D 2P+6D" REPS=1 RUN_TAG=<tag> \
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bash /home/admin/cpfs/wjh/agentic-kv-fresh/scripts/mb5_run.sh'
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# 2. reduce on dash1 (numpy-only; handles the multi-GB snapshot dirs)
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ssh dash1 '.venv/bin/python scripts/aggregate_mb5.py --sweep-root mb5_runs \
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--tag <tag> --configs "8C 6P+2D 4P+4D 2P+6D" --reps 1 \
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--reduce-to mb5_runs/reduced_<tag>.json'
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# 3. pull the compact JSON, render figures locally
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scp dash1:.../mb5_runs/reduced_<tag>.json analysis/mb5/
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.venv/bin/python microbench/fresh_setup/aggregate_mb5.py \
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--from-reduced analysis/mb5/reduced_<tag>.json --out-dir figs/mb5
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# session-affinity arm: prefix the run with MB5_P_ROUTING=session
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```
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