# MB1 — Prefill–Decode Interference (chunked-prefill on, vLLM 0.18.1 default) Persistent record of the phase-interference microbench used to put a quantitative upper bound on **what PD-disaggregation can buy** under the chunked-prefill-on baseline. Re-runs append a dated section at the bottom; the **Summary** block is what gets cited. --- ## Summary (latest) | Headline | Value | |---|---| | Baseline single-stream TPOT (D=1, idle GPU) | **4.8 ms** | | Effective per-stream TPOT during **8k-token** prefill burst (D=8) | **114 ms (≈15× baseline)** | | Effective per-stream TPOT during **32k-token** prefill burst (D=8) | **388 ms (≈52×)** | | Effective per-stream TPOT during **131k-token** prefill burst (D=8) | **1419 ms (≈183×)** | **What MB1 actually measures**: > During a prefill burst, every ongoing decode stream is essentially > halted (per-stream effective TPOT is 15×–2000× baseline, scaling with > prefill size). The **total decode time lost per prefill event is > `D × T_prefill`** (D concurrent decodes each lose ~T_prefill of useful > work). For the trace mean (P ≈ 33k tokens, T_prefill ≈ 4.5 s) at D=8 > that's **~36 seconds of decode-equivalent work lost per request**. > This is the **upper bound on what PD-disaggregation's phase isolation > could recover** on the decode side. **⚠ Correction (2026-05-27)**: an earlier version of this README framed the §3.2 PD-disagg argument as "phase-isolation benefit is capped at the decode duration of the new request (~50–200 ms), so MB2 transfer cost dominates". That framing was wrong. The correct accounting is benefit-per-prefill-event = D × T_prefill (aggregate decode time saved across all stalled streams), which is **much larger than per-request transfer cost**. The actual reason static PD-disagg fails in agentic is **D-side KV pool capacity** (`figs/f4b_pdsep_kv_wall.png`), not a cost-vs-benefit imbalance on phase isolation. See `RESULTS_SUMMARY.md` section 4 for the corrected framing. ## Setup | Component | Value | |---|---| | Host | dash1, H20 96 GiB, driver 570.133.20 | | Venv | `/home/admin/cpfs/wjh/agentic-kv-fresh/.venv` | | vLLM | 0.18.1 official wheel (chunked-prefill default-on, V1 engine) | | Model | `/home/admin/cpfs/wjh/models/Qwen/Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct` | | Launch flags | `--tensor-parallel-size 1 --enable-prefix-caching --gpu-memory-utilization 0.9 --max-model-len 200000 --max-num-batched-tokens 8192` | | kv_connector | **none** (this measures pure single-GPU phase interference; PD-disagg cost lives in MB2) | ## Method Adapted from `microbench/interference/driver.py`: 1. Start D streaming decode requests on `/v1/chat/completions` with a long max_tokens cap. Discard the first 32 tokens as warmup. 2. After 1 s, inject one prefill-only request with `max_tokens=1` and an input of `P` synthetic tokens (uuid-seeded for zero prefix-cache reuse). Measure the prefill's TTFT. 3. Bin the *during-prefill* tokens from each decode stream by whether their wall-clock falls inside `[prefill_inject_ts, prefill_inject_ts + prefill_ttft]`. Report inter-token p50 / p90. 4. Bin a baseline run (D streams, no prefill injection) the same way. We additionally compute the **effective per-stream TPOT during the prefill burst** as the single most informative summary: ``` eff_TPOT_during = prefill_ttft_ms / (num_tokens_during_prefill / D) ``` This is the average rate at which each decode stream produces tokens while a prefill is in flight. Compared to baseline TPOT it gives the real per-stream throughput penalty (chunked-prefill p50 looks deceptively fine because most decode-token intervals during the burst are at normal speed; p90 sees the stall but is itself noisy; the effective TPOT is the cleanest "average over the whole burst window" number). ## Results — 2026-05-27, dash1 GPU 0, chunk_tokens=8192 3 D × 5 P × 3 reps. Aggregated by `analyze_mb1.py`. | D | P (tok) | base TPOT (ms) | prefill_ttft (ms) | per-stream tokens during | effective TPOT during (ms) | penalty | max PD-disagg benefit per stream (ms) | |--:|--:|--:|--:|--:|--:|--:|--:| | 1 | 2 048 | 4.79 | 163 | 4.0 | 41 | 8× | 144 | | 1 | 8 192 | 4.78 | 584 | 5.0 | 117 | 24× | 560 | | 1 | 32 768 | 4.78 | 4 515 | 5.0 | 903 | 189× | 4 491 | | 1 | 65 536 | 4.78 | 15 568 | 5.3 | 2 919 | 610× | 15 542 | | 1 | 131 072 | 4.78 | 56 765 | 5.7 | 10 017 | 2 094× | 56 738 | | 4 | 2 048 | 5.62 | 138 | 3.9 | 36 | 6× | 117 | | 4 | 8 192 | 6.08 | 574 | 4.5 | 128 | 21× | 547 | | 4 | 32 768 | 6.09 | 4 529 | 11.9 | 381 | 63× | 4 457 | | 4 | 65 536 | 5.85 | 15 587 | 19.8 | 789 | 135× | 15 471 | | 4 | 131 072 | 6.27 | 56 697 | 37.4 | 1 517 | 242× | 56 463 | | 8 | 2 048 | 7.71 | 143 | 4.5 | 32 | 4× | 109 | | 8 | 8 192 | 7.69 | 583 | 5.1 | 114 | 15× | 544 | | 8 | 32 768 | 7.42 | 4 520 | 11.7 | 387 | 52× | 4 434 | | 8 | 65 536 | 7.67 | 15 615 | 20.6 | 757 | 99× | 15 457 | | 8 | 131 072 | 7.74 | 56 991 | 40.2 | 1 419 | 183× | 56 680 | **Reading the table**: - *Baseline TPOT* grows mildly with D (4.8 ms → 7.7 ms as D goes 1 → 8). Multi-stream decoding has small but nonzero contention even without prefill. - *Effective TPOT during* grows mostly with P: a single 8k prefill stalls decode for ~580 ms regardless of D, so each stream emits only a handful of tokens during that 580 ms window — effective per-stream TPOT collapses to 100–130 ms. Larger prefill = more chunks = larger stall. - *Penalty* is the eff/baseline ratio. Above 50× for P ≥ 32k. Above 500× for D=1 at P ≥ 65k. - *Max PD-disagg benefit per stream* = `prefill_ttft − per_stream_tokens × baseline_TPOT` ≈ `prefill_ttft` (since interference essentially halts decode). This is the entire prefill duration's worth of decode time that could in principle be recovered. **Connecting to the §3.2 PD-disagg argument** (corrected): PD-disagg's promised phase-isolation benefit is **per prefill event**, not per request. When a new prefill arrives, it stalls every concurrent decode stream on the same GPU. The aggregate decode time lost across those D streams is `D × T_prefill`. PD-disagg moving prefill off-decode-GPU recovers all of it. Plugging numbers per prefill event: | Prefill size | T_prefill | PD-disagg cost (MB2 T_transfer) | PD-disagg benefit (D=8 × T_prefill) | Ratio | |---:|---:|---:|---:|---:| | 2k tok (trace lower) | 0.14 s | 8 ms | 1.1 s | 0.7 % | | 33k tok (trace mean) | 4.5 s | 320 ms | 36 s | 0.9 % | | 125k tok (~p99) | 57 s | 1.9 s | 456 s | 0.4 % | On the **phase-isolation axis alone**, PD-disagg wins by 100×–250×. The reason static PD-disagg nonetheless **fails in agentic** is a *different* failure mode: the D-side KV pool cannot fit p90+ requests (p99 = 11.5 GiB; D-instance pool ≈ 38 GiB; 4P+4D halves system-wide decode capacity → TTFT p50 62×, success rate 99.5% → 52% in colleague's 4P+4D experiment). The structural problem is **capacity** (see `figs/f4b_pdsep_kv_wall.png`), not transfer-cost vs phase-isolation trade-off. ## Reproduction ```bash # vllm pair-free single-instance launch ssh dash1 'GPU=0 PORT=8000 CHUNK_TOKENS=8192 \ bash /home/admin/cpfs/wjh/agentic-kv-fresh/scripts/mb1_launch.sh start' # sweep ssh dash1 'source /home/admin/cpfs/wjh/agentic-kv-fresh/.venv/bin/activate && \ python /home/admin/cpfs/wjh/agentic-kv-fresh/scripts/mb1_driver.py \ --host 127.0.0.1 --port 8000 \ --model /home/admin/cpfs/wjh/models/Qwen/Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct \ --decode-batch-sizes 1,4,8 --prefill-tokens 2048,8192,32768,65536,131072 \ --reps 3 --output-dir /home/admin/cpfs/wjh/agentic-kv-fresh/mb1_results' # pull + analyze scp dash1:/home/admin/cpfs/wjh/agentic-kv-fresh/mb1_results/chunk8192/summary.csv \ analysis/mb1/summary.csv .venv/bin/python microbench/fresh_setup/analyze_mb1.py \ --summary analysis/mb1/summary.csv --out analysis/mb1/breakdown.json .venv/bin/python microbench/fresh_setup/plot_mb1.py \ --mb1 analysis/mb1/breakdown.json \ --mb2-intra analysis/mb2/intra_kvboth_breakdown.json \ --mb2-inter analysis/mb2/inter_kvboth_breakdown.json # teardown ssh dash1 'bash /home/admin/cpfs/wjh/agentic-kv-fresh/scripts/mb1_launch.sh stop' ``` ## Open questions / next runs - **Chunk size sensitivity**: this run uses `--max-num-batched-tokens 8192`. Sarathi-Serve goes smaller (e.g. 1024) and recovers more decode interleaving inside each prefill burst. Worth running chunk_tokens ∈ {1024, 2048, 4096, 16384} to map the chunk-size axis. - **Higher D**: 12, 16 streams to see whether the penalty saturates or keeps shrinking per-stream. - **Cross-validate effective_TPOT_during with token-time-series plot**: raw per-token timestamps could reveal whether the stall is a few big spikes or many small ones (currently inferred from p50/p90 spread). ## Run log ### 2026-05-27 — dash1 GPU 0, chunk_tokens=8192 3 × 5 × 3 sweep. CSV: `analysis/mb1/summary.csv`. Per-config JSONs on dash1 at `/home/admin/cpfs/wjh/agentic-kv-fresh/mb1_results/chunk8192/`. Figure: `figs/mb1_interference.png`. The figure `figs/pd_cost_vs_benefit.png` from the original commit `029821c` was based on the wrong "benefit ≤ decode duration" accounting; **deleted in the correction commit**.