User-requested comparison of inter-turn external gap distribution between the production agentic trace (Qwen3-Coder) and a production chatbot trace (qwen3-max chat). Both computed as T_external = next_turn.start_ms - prev_turn.end_ms on the same kind of pipeline (raw input + raw output join on request_id, session structure from the formatted trace's parent_chat_id chains). The chatbot trace lives as two files on dash0: input : bailian-trace/qwen-trace-260321-260327/qwen3-max-input-032309-032311.jsonl output : bailian-trace/qwen-trace-260321-260327/qwen3-max-output-032109-032711.jsonl The raw input has no session_id (uuid is per-record, user_id has only 4 distinct tenant values for 346 k requests). We recover session structure from the formatted file (qwen_chat_blksz_64_032309-032311.jsonl, which groups requests by parent_chat_id), matching each formatted record to a raw record by (timestamp, output_length) — prompt_token_num is anonymized to 0 in this trace, so we use generate_token_num as the join key. End time is derived from time_to_finish_token (ms duration) not the "time" string field (which is the log-write time, not request completion). Numbers (chatbot, 42 228 inter-turn gaps over 32 262 multi-turn sessions): p25 4.85 s p50 7.18 s p75 8.22 s p90 15.0 s p99 43 s 4% gaps < 1 s 29% < 5 s 78% < 10 s 98% < 30 s Compare to agentic (same metric, scripts/compute_inter_turn_gap_remote.py): p25 0.69 s p50 1.6 s p75 8.6 s p90 44 s p99 738 s 39% gaps < 1 s 67% < 5 s 77% < 10 s 87% < 30 s Distributions differ in shape, not just location: - Chatbot is tight, unimodal around 5–10 s (human interaction). - Agentic is bimodal: a sub-second autonomous tool-call mode (39 % < 1 s) plus a long-pause tail (13 % > 30 s, p99 = 738 s) for sessions where the operator steps away. - The sub-second tool-call mass is where dispatch coupling lives — those turns have W_turn ≫ T_external for any current scheduler. The earlier "chatbot has T_human ≈ 30 s" hand-wave was wrong empirically. The right framing for §2.3 is "agentic has a sub-second tool-call mode that chatbot doesn't", not "chatbot has think-time and agentic doesn't". Adds: - scripts/compute_inter_turn_gap_chatbot.py: dash0-side aggregator (raw input/output join + formatted alignment by ts + output_length) - analysis/characterization/data/chatbot_inter_turn_gap.json: CDF cache - scripts/plot_inter_turn_gap.py: overlays both curves on log-x Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.7 <noreply@anthropic.com>
221 lines
7.8 KiB
Python
221 lines
7.8 KiB
Python
#!/usr/bin/env python3
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"""Compute inter-turn T_external on the chatbot trace, v2.
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Uses formatted's parent_chat_id chains for sessions, and matches each
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formatted record to a raw input/output pair by (timestamp, input_length)
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rather than by index (index-by-index drifted up to 120s in v1).
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Run on dash0. Writes /tmp/chatbot_inter_turn_gap.json.
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"""
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import json
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import bisect
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from collections import defaultdict
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import numpy as np
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from datetime import datetime
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RAW_IN = "/home/admin/cpfs/wjh/bailian-trace/qwen-trace-260321-260327/qwen3-max-input-032309-032311.jsonl"
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RAW_OUT = "/home/admin/cpfs/wjh/bailian-trace/qwen-trace-260321-260327/qwen3-max-output-032109-032711.jsonl"
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FMT = "/home/admin/cpfs/wjh/bailian-trace/qwen-trace-260321-260327-formatted/qwen_chat_blksz_64_032309-032311.jsonl"
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OUT_JSON = "/tmp/chatbot_inter_turn_gap.json"
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def parse_time_str_to_ms(s):
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try:
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if "." in s:
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dt = datetime.strptime(s, "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S.%f")
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else:
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dt = datetime.strptime(s, "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S")
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return int(dt.timestamp() * 1000)
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except Exception:
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return None
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print("Reading raw output (joining by request_id)...")
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# In this trace prompt_token_num is anonymized to '0'; use generate_token_num
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# as the matching key (matches formatted output_length). For end_ms we use
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# time_to_finish_token (ms duration from request start) — the "time" string
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# field is log-write time, not request completion time.
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out_info = {} # request_id -> (ttf_ms, generate_token_num)
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n_out_seen = 0
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with open(RAW_OUT) as f:
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for line in f:
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try:
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d = json.loads(line)
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except: continue
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rid = d.get("request_id")
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if rid is None:
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continue
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n_out_seen += 1
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gtn = d.get("generate_token_num")
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ttf = d.get("time_to_finish_token")
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if ttf is None:
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continue
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try:
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ttf_ms = int(float(ttf))
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except: continue
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try:
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gtn = int(gtn) if gtn is not None else None
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except: gtn = None
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# Keep the largest ttf_ms if duplicates (multiple log lines per request)
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prev = out_info.get(rid)
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if prev is None or ttf_ms > prev[0]:
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out_info[rid] = (ttf_ms, gtn)
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print(f" scanned: {n_out_seen}, unique req with ttf: {len(out_info)}")
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print("Reading raw input + joining...")
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joined = [] # list of (start_ms, end_ms, input_length, request_id)
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n_in_seen = 0
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seen_rids = set()
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with open(RAW_IN) as f:
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for line in f:
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try:
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d = json.loads(line)
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except: continue
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n_in_seen += 1
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rid = d.get("request_id")
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ts = d.get("timestamp")
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if rid is None or ts is None or rid in seen_rids:
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continue
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seen_rids.add(rid)
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info = out_info.get(rid)
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if info is None:
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continue
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ttf_ms, gtn = info
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try: ts = int(ts)
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except: continue
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end_ms = ts + ttf_ms
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joined.append((ts, end_ms, gtn, rid))
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print(f" input scanned: {n_in_seen}, joined start+end+gtn: {len(joined)}")
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joined.sort(key=lambda x: x[0])
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starts = [j[0] for j in joined]
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gtns = [j[2] for j in joined] # generate_token_num (output_length-equivalent)
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ends = [j[1] for j in joined]
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print(f"start_ms range: [{starts[0]}, {starts[-1]}], duration {(starts[-1]-starts[0])/1000:.0f}s")
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print("Reading formatted...")
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fmt_rows = []
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with open(FMT) as f:
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for line in f:
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try:
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d = json.loads(line)
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except: continue
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fmt_rows.append((
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int(d["chat_id"]),
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int(d["parent_chat_id"]),
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float(d["timestamp"]),
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int(d.get("input_length", 0)),
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int(d.get("output_length", 0)),
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))
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print(f" formatted records: {len(fmt_rows)}")
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print(f"fmt timestamp range: [{fmt_rows[0][2]}, {fmt_rows[-1][2]}]s "
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f"(duration {fmt_rows[-1][2] - fmt_rows[0][2]:.0f}s)")
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# Calibrate T0 by matching first few formatted records with raw records.
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# We use output_length (formatted) vs generate_token_num (raw output) as the
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# matching key — prompt_token_num is anonymized to 0.
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print("Calibrating T0 (raw_ms anchor for formatted ts=0)...")
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T0_candidates = []
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for chat_id, _pcid, ts_rel, _il, ol in fmt_rows[:200]:
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for k in range(min(2000, len(joined))):
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if gtns[k] == ol:
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T0_candidates.append(starts[k] - int(ts_rel * 1000))
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break
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T0_candidates.sort()
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T0 = T0_candidates[len(T0_candidates) // 2] if T0_candidates else starts[0]
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print(f" T0 from {len(T0_candidates)} candidates -> {T0} ms")
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print(f" candidate T0 distribution: min={min(T0_candidates) if T0_candidates else 'n/a'} "
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f"max={max(T0_candidates) if T0_candidates else 'n/a'}")
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print("Matching formatted -> raw by (ts_rel, output_length)...")
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TOLERANCE_MS = 60_000 # ±60 s window
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fmt_to_timing = {}
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matched = 0
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ambiguous = 0
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unmatched = 0
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for chat_id, _pcid, ts_rel, _il, ol in fmt_rows:
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target_ms = T0 + int(ts_rel * 1000)
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lo = bisect.bisect_left(starts, target_ms - TOLERANCE_MS)
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hi = bisect.bisect_right(starts, target_ms + TOLERANCE_MS)
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best = None
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best_drift = None
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for k in range(lo, hi):
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if gtns[k] == ol:
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d = abs(starts[k] - target_ms)
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if best_drift is None or d < best_drift:
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best_drift = d
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best = k
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if best is None:
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unmatched += 1
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continue
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fmt_to_timing[chat_id] = (starts[best], ends[best])
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matched += 1
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print(f" matched: {matched}, unmatched: {unmatched}, ambiguous: {ambiguous}")
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print(f" match rate: {matched/len(fmt_rows)*100:.1f}%")
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# Build session structure from parent_chat_id chains
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chat_to_session = {}
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for chat_id, pcid, _ts, _il, _ol in fmt_rows:
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if pcid < 0:
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sid = chat_id
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else:
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sid = chat_to_session.get(pcid, pcid)
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chat_to_session[chat_id] = sid
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sessions = defaultdict(list)
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for chat_id, _pcid, _ts, _il, _ol in fmt_rows:
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timing = fmt_to_timing.get(chat_id)
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if timing is None:
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continue
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sid = chat_to_session[chat_id]
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sessions[sid].append(timing)
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gaps_ms = []
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neg = 0
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multi = 0
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for sid, turns in sessions.items():
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if len(turns) < 2:
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continue
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multi += 1
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turns.sort(key=lambda x: x[0])
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for i in range(len(turns) - 1):
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g = turns[i + 1][0] - turns[i][1]
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if g < 0:
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neg += 1
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continue
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gaps_ms.append(g)
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gaps = np.array(gaps_ms, dtype=np.float64) / 1000.0
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print(f"multi_turn_sessions: {multi}, gaps_kept: {len(gaps)}, neg_dropped: {neg}")
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if len(gaps) == 0:
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print("No gaps to summarize.")
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else:
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pcts = [1, 5, 25, 50, 75, 90, 95, 99]
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ps = {f"p{p}": float(np.percentile(gaps, p)) for p in pcts}
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print(f"stats_s: min={gaps.min():.3f} mean={gaps.mean():.3f} max={gaps.max():.3f} {ps}")
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for thr in [0.1, 0.5, 1.0, 2.0, 5.0, 10.0, 30.0, 60.0, 300.0, 1800.0]:
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pct = (gaps < thr).sum() / len(gaps) * 100
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print(f"frac < {thr:7.1f}s : {pct:5.1f}%")
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n = len(gaps)
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arr = np.sort(gaps)
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idx_top = np.unique(np.round(np.geomspace(1, max(1, n // 100), 200)).astype(int)) - 1
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idx_rest = np.unique(np.linspace(n // 100, n - 1, 300).astype(int))
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idx = np.unique(np.concatenate([[0], idx_top, idx_rest, [n - 1]]))
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idx = idx[idx < n]
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samples = [{"rank_pct": float((i + 1) / n * 100), "gap_s": float(arr[i])} for i in idx]
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out = {
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"trace": "chatbot",
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"n_gaps": n,
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"n_sessions": multi,
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"negative_dropped": neg,
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"matched_formatted_to_raw": matched,
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"unmatched_formatted": unmatched,
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"stats_s": {**{"min": float(gaps.min()), "max": float(gaps.max()),
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"mean": float(gaps.mean())}, **ps},
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"fraction_below": {f"{thr}s": float((gaps < thr).sum() / n)
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for thr in [0.1, 0.5, 1.0, 2.0, 5.0, 10.0, 30.0, 60.0, 300.0, 1800.0]},
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"cdf_samples": samples,
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}
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open(OUT_JSON, "w").write(json.dumps(out))
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print(f"wrote {OUT_JSON}")
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