Record Qwen235 portability experiment gate
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# EXP-SIMFID-Q235-V020-PORTABILITY: large FP8 MoE boundary case
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> Status: compatibility gate prepared. No Qwen235 vLLM 0.20/deadc4a profile or
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> real/simulator latency result exists yet; historical vLLM 0.10.2 SLO data is
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> explicitly excluded.
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## Scope
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This is the requested Qwen3-235B-A22B-FP8 case, kept separate from the Qwen30
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surface. Its purpose is first to establish whether the current Frontier stack
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can even represent the same large-FP8-MoE runtime; it is not evidence that a
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Qwen30 profile generalizes.
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| Item | Frozen proposal |
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| model | Qwen3-235B-A22B-FP8: FP8 e4m3/dynamic-block checkpoint; BF16 compute/KV contract recorded at runtime |
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| engine | community vLLM 0.20.0 (`88d34c640…`) |
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| simulator | Frontier `deadc4a…`, with `frontier.__file__` recorded by each profiler |
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| candidate plans | TP4/EP1 and TP8/EP8, each MNS 64/128, MBT=8192 |
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| first workload | Fixed-P: ISL=2048, OSL=1, prefix off, provisional global QPS=1.6 |
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| objective | mean/p90 TTFT and E2E; TPOT=N/A |
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TP1/TP2 do not fit the 239-GB checkpoint. TP8/EP1 is not assumed legal: only
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the two plans above have existing historical memory/topology evidence.
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## Gates
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1. A fresh vLLM 0.20 TP4 and TP8 server must load the checkpoint and return an
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exact 2048→1 response without FP8 fallback. This is a compatibility smoke,
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not a latency sample.
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2. New model-specific vLLM 0.20/deadc4a profiles must cover linear, router,
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FP8 MoE, prefill attention, and TP collectives for TP4/TP8. Old vLLM 0.10.2
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CUDA-event CSVs are forbidden inputs.
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3. The profile manifest binds model config/quantization, vLLM, exact Frontier
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import path/commit, hardware, and finite shape coverage. CPU replay must
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emit legal request metrics before a real surface is launched.
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4. Only then run the four-plan real/simulator Fixed-P surface with three fresh
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trials; a missing simulator cell is coverage failure, not a poor config.
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This ordering prevents a profile-runtime mismatch from being misreported as a
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simulator tuning failure.
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