New analysis/characterization/elastic_migration_v2/ packages the
unified_v2 + unified_kv_both experiments into a self-contained
results section that the paper can cite as the "we tried selective
PD-sep migration" case study. The section finds three independent
reasons PD-sep doesn't help on agentic w600:
1. Mooncake kv_both substrate alone (no PD-sep ever firing) imposes
TTFT p90 +45%, TPOT p90 +25%, hotspot index +19% vs plain
unified. Per-step KVConnectorMetadata maintenance and block
reservation semantics dominate even when no transfer is pending.
2. PD-sep gate fires only 0.16-0.41% of requests across two
gate-tightness configurations. 88-76% are killed by
new_local < threshold because 93% intra-session reuse on agentic
traces leaves a small uncached tail; 19% are killed by
chosen_no_active_decode (snapshot-time gate). Even relaxed
thresholds can't grow trigger rate past 0.5%.
3. When PD-sep fires, the calibrated cost model
(0.3s + bytes / 2.7 GB/s) is wrong by 10-20x. 5 triggered
requests in v2.1 saw realized TTFT 12-45s vs model-predicted
migrate cost 0.7-2.2s, consistent with the E2 audit's finding
that D-side block pre-reservation and missing layerwise
pipelining dominate the decode_sent -> first_token clock.
Three-way comparison (unified vs unified_kv_both vs unified_v2):
v2 vs the kv_both control is roughly net-zero (-10% hotspot,
-14% TPOT p90, +3% TTFT p90, +9% TTFT p99). v2 vs plain unified is
strictly worse by 27-49% across latency percentiles because the
kv_both substrate tax is unavoidable when the policy is enabled.
Contents:
- README.md: the four results sections, the three-way comparison
table, an explicit "what this claims for the paper" list, and a
cross-reference index to the earlier characterization documents.
- data/: b3_policy_comparison.json + per-policy breakdown.json
+ per-policy hotspot_index.json for the four policies in scope.
- figures/: 4 PNGs rendered by render_figures.py:
* fig_kv_both_overhead.png — 4-metric bar chart with delta
annotations showing kv_both alone costs +45% TTFT p90.
* fig_v2_trigger_funnel.png — per-reason request count for the
two gate configurations on log scale.
* fig_v2_predicted_vs_actual.png — scatter of model-predicted
migrate cost vs realized TTFT for the 5 triggered requests,
with y=x, 10x, and 20x reference lines.
* fig_three_way_hotspot.png — per-worker TTFT p90 grouped bars
across the three policies.
The section is intentionally self-contained: it lists what the
experiment validates (cost model picks correct candidates;
shadow-drift fix is necessary; same-worker interference is real)
alongside what it disproves (per-request PD-sep on agentic via
Mooncake is not a net win in current implementation).
Refs: E1/E2 subagent audits, B2 microbench, unified_v2 commits
19f69a9 / 4b833d3 / 95c8ef8.
Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.7 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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Elastic Migration v2: Selective PD-Separation via Mooncake
Date: 2026-05-26
Trace: traces/w600_r0.0015_st30.jsonl (1214 reqs, 274 sessions, 53.3 M tokens)
Model: Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct, 8 × TP1 on H20
TL;DR
This section explores whether the B2-confirmed same-worker
prefill–decode interference can be relieved by selectively
migrating prefill to a different worker for the requests where the
interference cost would dominate the transfer cost. We implement two
flavors of the policy (strict gates, then relaxed gates) and a clean
isolation control (unified_kv_both: same picker as unified, but
the vLLMs are launched in kv_role=kv_both so the Mooncake
substrate is on but never triggers).
Three findings:
kv_role=kv_bothalone imposes a heavy always-on tax: TTFT p90 +45%, TPOT p90 +25%, hotspot index +19% vs plainunified, with no PD-sep ever firing.- PD-sep almost never triggers on a real agentic workload: 0.16% with strict gates, 0.41% with relaxed gates. Agentic workloads have 93% intra-session reuse, so most requests land on workers that already hold cache — the uncached tail is too small to be worth migrating.
- When PD-sep does fire, the cost model is wrong by ~10–20×:
the calibrated
0.3s + bytes / 2.7 GB/spredicts 1–2 s migrate cost; observed TTFT on triggered requests is 12–45 s. The same D-side block-reservation pressure and absence of layerwise pipelining that the E2 audit flagged still dominate.
The net latency of unified_v2 is not better than plain
unified. Improving agentic PD-sep requires fixing the underlying
Mooncake transfer mechanism (E2 patches 6.1 lazy block reservation
and 6.3 layerwise pipelining), not the routing decision.
Substrate
We compare three policies on identical traces:
| policy | picker | vLLM launch mode | what's it for |
|---|---|---|---|
unified |
hybrid affinity + LMetric | plain (no Mooncake) | the headline baseline |
unified_kv_both |
same as unified |
kv_role=kv_both + bootstrap |
isolation control: how much does kv_both alone cost? |
unified_v2 |
unified + selective PD-sep | kv_role=kv_both + bootstrap |
the actual experiment |
All three use the same trace, the same 8-instance topology, the same
shadow-drift–corrected proxy (scripts/cache_aware_proxy.py post-fix
95c8ef8). Plain unified was rerun on the patched proxy
(b3_sweep_20260525_095043/unified) under the same conditions.
Result 1 — kv_both is expensive by itself
Switching the vLLM launch from plain to kv_role=kv_both without
ever triggering PD-sep already costs:
| metric | plain unified |
unified_kv_both |
Δ |
|---|---|---|---|
| TTFT p50 | 0.50 s | 0.50 s | +0% |
| TTFT p90 | 7.35 s | 10.67 s | +45% |
| TTFT p99 | 42.34 s | 45.19 s | +7% |
| TPOT p90 | 17.1 ms | 21.3 ms | +25% |
| E2E p90 | 18.03 s | 22.89 s | +27% |
| APC | 79.4% | 78.3% | −1.1 pp |
| hotspot index | 3.667 | 4.363 | +19% |
Two contributing factors:
- The Mooncake
MooncakeConnectorruns even when no transfer is pending. Every scheduler step it walksset(cache.keys())against_known_hash_keys(E2 audit §6.5) and updates theKVConnectorMetadata. This is O(|cache|) per step on every engine, even when no producer/consumer relationship is active. - Block reservation semantics differ under kv_both. The scheduler treats blocks as candidates for export-to-others, so the prefix cache LRU pressure is slightly different (we lose 1 pp APC).
Practical implication: you don't enable kv_both for free. If a deployment wants the option to do PD-sep selectively, the 45% TTFT p90 tax applies even on requests that stay local. This needs to recoverable cost before any selective-PD-sep policy is worth shipping.
Result 2 — PD-sep rarely fires on a real agentic trace
We log every routing decision's v2_reason (why we did or did not
PD-sep). Two runs with different gate thresholds:
| fall-through bucket | v2.0 strict | v2.1 relaxed | what it means |
|---|---|---|---|
new_local < threshold |
1077 (88.7%) | 924 (76.1%) | uncached tail too small to justify transfer |
chosen_no_active_decode |
115 (9.5%) | 229 (18.9%) | no decode on chosen to protect |
src_cache_below_threshold |
14 (1.2%) | 36 (3.0%) | no alt instance holds enough cache |
src_not_meaningfully_more_cache |
6 (0.5%) | 16 (1.3%) | alt instance doesn't help vs chosen |
cost_benefit not enough margin |
0 | 4 (0.3%) | model says transfer cost + interference on src ≥ local interference |
| PD-sep TRIGGERED | 2 (0.16%) | 5 (0.41%) | passed all gates and cost-benefit favored migrate |
The dominant filter is new_local < threshold. Even with the
threshold dropped from 16 k to 8 k tokens, three out of four requests
have less than 8 k uncached tokens at the chosen worker. This is
structural: with intra-session reuse measured at 93% on the same
trace (window_1_results.md), most turns hit prefix cache on the
session's previous worker.
The second filter, chosen_no_active_decode, kills another fifth.
This is a snapshot-time phenomenon: at the moment the picker runs,
the chosen worker often has its previous request still in prefill,
not yet decoding. The gate's intent ("don't migrate if no decode is
being hurt by the prefill we're routing") is correct, but it ends up
suppressing PD-sep for a real situation where decode is about to
start.
Even after these two filters, the cost-benefit step itself rejects nearly half of remaining candidates (4 out of 9 in relaxed). So the final trigger rate of 0.41% is a structural property, not a parameter-tuning problem.
Result 3 — when PD-sep fires, the cost model is wrong by 10–20×
The 5 PD-sep-triggered requests in v2.1 relaxed:
| input | new_local | new_src | src→dst | cost_local | cost_migrate (model) | actual TTFT | actual E2E |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 21963 | 21963 | 9163 | 6→5 | 4.39 s | 4.17 s | 3.69 s | 8.48 s |
| 8706 | 8706 | 2050 | 5→7 | 1.09 s | 0.73 s | 12.48 s | 14.31 s |
| 13616 | 13616 | 2352 | 4→0 | 1.70 s | 1.03 s | 18.33 s | 19.50 s |
| 49483 | 49483 | 843 | 3→4 | 11.75 s | 2.16 s | 45.13 s | 53.55 s |
| 19806 | 19806 | 350 | 3→6 | 3.96 s | 1.06 s | 20.06 s | 31.98 s |
The cost model predicts the migrate path will take 0.7–2.2 s; the
actual TTFT on these requests is 12–45 s. The model's 0.3 s + bytes / 2.7 GB/s calibration captures pure RDMA bandwidth in
isolation but misses everything else that happens on the
decode_sent → first_token clock: D-side scheduler step latency,
block reservation before KV arrives (so D's cache pressure
increases for the entire wait), the per-layer scatter of
batch_transfer_sync_write, and the next-step scheduler promotion
after finished_recving. The E2 audit measured this end-to-end at
p50 = 1.1 s and p90 = 6.7 s on production runs; the v2.1
triggered requests landed in the p99 tail of that distribution
because their dst was already loaded.
The first-token clock for the 49 k request is 21× the model's prediction. This is not a small mis-tuning — it's a structurally different model.
Result 4 — three-way comparison
The full table:
| metric | unified (plain) | unified_kv_both | unified_v2 (relaxed) |
|---|---|---|---|
| n_ok | 1214 | 1214 | 1214 |
| TTFT p50 | 0.50 s | 0.50 s | 0.49 s |
| TTFT p90 | 7.35 s | 10.67 s | 10.98 s |
| TTFT p99 | 42.34 s | 45.19 s | 49.45 s |
| TPOT p90 | 17.1 ms | 21.3 ms | 18.4 ms |
| E2E p90 | 18.03 s | 22.89 s | 22.53 s |
| APC | 79.4% | 78.3% | 77.6% |
| interference index | n/a (no engine_state) | 8.57 | 8.46 |
| hotspot index | 3.667 | 4.363 | 3.910 |
| n_slow | 189 | 198 | 198 |
v2 vs the kv_both control (the right comparison)
Compared to the kv_both control — same substrate, no PD-sep — the 5 PD-sep triggers in v2:
- slightly improve TPOT p90 (−14%) and hotspot (−10%)
- slightly worsen TTFT p90 (+3%) and TTFT p99 (+9%), because the triggered requests themselves take ~20× the predicted transfer time
The net effect against the kv_both control is in the noise. The hotspot improvement is within the run-to-run stochastic range we saw earlier (v2 strict run scored 2.733 hotspot under the same substrate; v2 relaxed scored 3.910).
v2 vs plain unified (the headline question)
unified_v2 is 27% slower on E2E p90 and 49% slower on TTFT
p90 than plain unified. The 45 pp of TTFT p90 inflation is from
kv_both substrate, not the routing decision; nothing PD-sep does can
recover this in our current Mooncake implementation.
Why v2's PD-sep is fundamentally choked
There are three independent structural problems, each by itself enough to make v2 not win:
-
The kv_both substrate is the wrong default. It pays a 45% TTFT p90 tax on every request. To make selective PD-sep beat plain
unified, the saved interference per triggered request times the trigger rate must exceed 45% × average TTFT, on average. With 0.41% trigger rate, even saving 100% of TTFT per triggered request would only save ~0.4%, which can't recover 45%. -
Agentic intra-session reuse leaves no headroom for migration. Most turns hit cache on the worker that handled the previous turn. Migrating prefill to a different worker is the exact thing intra-session affinity tries to avoid: it forces the new worker to pay for the cached prefix transfer instead of just reusing what's already on the affinity worker. This is a structural mismatch between PD-sep semantics ("send big prefills to a less-busy worker") and agentic workloads ("keep sessions sticky to wherever the cache is").
-
The Mooncake mechanism is 10–20× slower than the cost model predicts, primarily due to D-side pre-allocation of KV blocks and the absence of layerwise pipelining (E2 audit §6.1 / §6.3). The cost model can be re-calibrated, but doing so would push the gate even tighter, dropping the already-tiny trigger rate to nearly zero.
The three are stacked: even if any two were fixed, the remaining one would still make PD-sep a net loss on this trace.
What this section claims for the paper
- Same-worker prefill–decode interference is a real mechanism (B2 microbench), but agentic workloads rarely expose it: the typical request has high cache hit and small uncached tail, so the interference cost is bounded.
- Routing-only solutions (unified) already capture 79% of the intra-session APC ceiling and recover the latency by avoiding the heavy-tail sessions through the affinity gate. The remaining 23 pp gap to the ceiling is from APC LRU eviction under capacity pressure, not from prefill–decode interference.
- Per-request PD-sep via Mooncake on agentic workloads is not a net win in our measurements, even with a carefully-gated cost model. The combined effect of kv_both substrate overhead, low trigger rate, and mechanism-vs-model gap is uniformly negative.
- A productive direction is mechanism-level: fix the Mooncake D-side block reservation (E2 §6.1), implement layerwise transfer pipelining (E2 §6.3), and re-measure. Only if these patches drop the substrate tax to <10% and the realized transfer to ≤2 s p90 does PD-sep become competitive with routing on agentic traces.
What v2 still validates
- The cost model's qualitative shape is correct: when it says "migrate", that's a request where local interference would have been ≥ 4 s and src has ≥ 80% prefix cache. The model picks the right candidate requests.
- The gate logic catches the right exclusions: 88% by uncached tail size, 19% by no-decode-to-protect, the rest by missing source cache. Each is a structurally correct reason.
- The proxy shadow-drift fix is necessary infrastructure for any long-running routing experiment. We observed 3 phantom corrections per ~50-minute run.
Files
data/b3_policy_comparison.json— the four policies' headline metrics from the same B3 sweep root.data/breakdown_<policy>.json— per-request proxy breakdown including v2 gate fields and triggered-event metadata.data/per_worker_<policy>.json— per-worker TTFT/latency p90s used in the hotspot figure.figures/*.png— the four section figures referenced above.render_figures.py— regenerates the figures from data/.
Cross-references
analysis/characterization/window_1_results.md— B2 microbench (same-worker interference causal proof) and B3 baseline 5-policy sweepanalysis/characterization/agentic_dispatch_coupling.md— why the saturated-replay setup matches agentic productionanalysis/characterization/b3_policies_pseudocode.md— pickers for the five baseline policies;unified_v2extendsunified- E1 / E2 subagent reports (commit
4b833d3message and the conversation log) — full mechanism audit that informed v2's design



