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Gahow Wang f2ff0faebd Document Stop-B end-to-end on dense 27B: the improving climb + no-regression
Real gpt-5.4 agentic loop raised per-GPU TP1 0.123 -> TP2 0.2925 -> TP4 1.0012 (8.1x),
each a correctly-diagnosed real gain; then a TP4 runtime tweak measured 0.942 < 1.00
and was correctly rejected (no regression). With the 30B run (validator stop + LLM-stop
veto), all Stop-B behaviors are now validated end-to-end. The SIGTERM-teardown fix was
validated in practice (clean engine teardown, no GPU leak on stop). Efficiency finding:
at scale=1.0, infeasible high-theta probes burn the 900s elapsed cap, so a practical
loop needs a lower cap; this is why the run was stopped after iter-4 rather than driven
to an explicit Stop-B firing.

Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.8 <noreply@anthropic.com>
2026-06-16 18:07:00 +08:00

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Stop-B end-to-end on dense Qwen3.5-27B (the improving trajectory) — 2026-06-16

Branch feat/two-stop. Real gpt-5.4 agentic loop (codex/prism), Stop-A enabled, length-aware TTFT SLO (4s + L_in/8k, TPOT ≤ 50 ms), vLLM 0.11.1, H20, GPUs 27, replay_time_scale=1.0, search.high=0.25, inherit_incumbent_floor=true. Config dash0_qwen27b_stopB_loop.json. Companion to the 30B run (stop-b-e2e-20260616.md); together they cover all Stop-B behaviors.

Trajectory (incumbent = TP4 @ 1.00 req/s/GPU)

iter proposed by config per_gpu adopted?
1 baseline TP1 0.123 incumbent
2 gpt-5.4 TP2 0.2925 (2.4×) new incumbent
3 gpt-5.4 TP4 1.0012 (8.1×) new incumbent
4 gpt-5.4 TP4 + chunked-prefill + mbt=16384 0.942 worse → rejected
5 gpt-5.4 TP2 + DP2 (loop stopped before completing)

(Run stopped manually after iter-4 — see "Why stopped" below. Incumbent preserved at TP4.)

What this demonstrates (the piece the 30B run could not)

  • A genuine improving climb. gpt-5.4 + the harness raised per-GPU throughput TP1 → TP2 → TP4 (0.123 → 0.29 → 1.00, 8.1×), each step a correctly-diagnosed real gain: TP1 is TPOT-bound, so the agent scaled tensor-parallelism, then — once topology was won — pivoted to runtime tuning on the winning family (chunked prefill + larger batched tokens).
  • No regression. The runtime tweak (iter-4) measured below plain TP4 (0.942 < 1.00), and the harness correctly kept TP4 as the incumbent rather than adopting the worse config — the core Stop-B guarantee, shown live.
  • Combined with the 30B run (search-high-saturation validator-authorized stop + premature-LLM-stop veto), every Stop-B behavior is now validated end-to-end: improving climb, correct bottleneck-driven proposals, no regression, deterministic stop authority, and the LLM-stop veto.

Process wins / findings

  • SIGTERM teardown fix validated in practice. This loop was stopped with a plain SIGTERM and the engine + EngineCore workers torn down cleanly — GPUs 27 freed, no orphan, no leaked memory (contrast: the pre-fix runs twice leaked GPU0/1). Commit b17b213.
  • Timeout-as-failed-request fix (2fcaf80) held — no trial crashed on request timeouts this run.

Why stopped (efficiency finding — feeds next round)

The loop was stopped after iter-4 rather than run to an explicit Stop-B firing, because each TP4-family trial took ~3 h: at scale=1.0, infeasible high-θ probes each run to the early_stop_max_elapsed_s=900 cap (probe_elapsed_s>900), and the primary+fallback binary search doubles the probe count. Stop-A truncates a converged replay but does not shortcut an overloaded probe that simply runs out the clock. For a practical agentic loop at scale=1.0, lower early_stop_max_elapsed_s (≈300 s) so overloaded probes die fast; consider also having an infeasible-and- overloaded probe early-stop on a fast lag/throughput signal rather than the elapsed cap. The convergence itself was already evident (iter-4's runtime tweak and the queued TP2+DP2 were not beating TP4).

Next

  • Lower the elapsed cap and (optionally) re-run to capture the explicit Stop-B stop on this 27B stack.
  • Land the deferred items: more robust C feature for the low-reuse regime; Stop-C cross-day retune trigger; §7 baselines (SCOOT/naive/community).